Often times when having conversations with other Power Engineers studying for their Power Engineering exams I get asked.
“What is the easiest order to write your Power Engineering exams?”
I’ve also seen this question asked on Power Engineer’s Annonymous and Power Engineer Central Forum throughout the years.
Usually, you don’t have much choice on which order you write your exams when you’re enrolled in school. Other times when you self-study you’ll have complete control. I had to start somewhere. So the one assumption I made is you start with 4A and then continue from 4th to 1st Class.
I should clear one thing up before we get into the path I would take to tackle my exams. And that is, you’ll notice the path I took is much different than the path I’m recommending. This is because on December 1, 2013, the rules of the game changed.
Before December 1, 2013, you had to complete your steam time and have it approved before you were able to write your Part B examinations.
After December 1, 2013, you can now write Part A or Part B examinations regardless of whether your steam time has been completed.
This has now led to many options for you to choose from to complete your exams. Hopefully, this summary will be a valuable aid when deciding what is the easiest order to write your power engineering exams.
Results From My Power Engineering Exams
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These Power Engineering statistics are referenced from the ABSA website.
You can find theses examinations stats and many more here: Power Engineering Statistics For Alberta
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Do you agree or disagree with this order? If you disagree, what changes would you make and why? I’ll have no problem making changes if it’ll make it easier for everyone.
Note: After writing this post I realized. The path could be quite different depending on which level of Power Engineering certification you desire to obtain. For now, though, I will leave it from 4th to 1st.
In January 3B1 is targeted to become a multiple choice exam. This could impact what the easiest order to write your power engineering exams.
Preparing for your power engineering exams? Check out the following posts & practice exams:
- Power Engineering Training Courses Across Canada
- Power Engineering Study Apps
- 4A Power Engineering Practice Exam
- 4B Power Engineering Practice Exam
- 3B1 Power Engineering Practice Exam
- 3B2 Power Engineering Practice Exam
Good luck!
Power Engineering 101
Good Job getting 4th to 1st in just 31/2 years. Here in Mb they only started changing the rules for firing time requirements before being able to write the B papers of each ticket this year.
I’ve got an off topic question. There is a question from from 2b3 (elect) that is directly taken out of a material used by Mike Maiden and the way he answered it is wrong. The question was, there is a conductor loop of a certain length and width placed in a magnetic field of a constant strength in wb/m^2 and is rotated from 0, 30, 60, 90 degrees. The question was asking for the amount of magfield through the loop for each angle. Mike Maiden’s answer is Flux=B(magfield strength)*area loop* sine of angle. I say it’s cosine and not sine. What is your thought?
Thanks Ed. I found the rule change definitely made it easier while working on my 1st. I was able to keep the momentum going instead of finishing part A then waiting over a year to pick up the books again and work on the part B papers.
As for your question, AC power or flux follows the sine wave, and that is why Mike would have used sine instead of cosine.
Robbie
Not sure if you still look at this site but here goes I am down to my last exam on my first and unfortunately I see it has an abysmal pass rate yep Thermodynamics. I can see why as the Pan Global text is mostly theory and how to derive formulas. Was that the case in your exam or was it mostly straight up good old Reids book calculations?
Congratulations on the success to date and writing the last exam on your first! No small feat. My exam was heavily weighted towards the Reid book calculations (I’d say 6 out of 7 questions) compared to theory and deriving formulas. Good luck!
Where did you get the credit to get the full steam time from 4th-1st within 3.75 years? Curious to know if there are any courses out there to reduce steam time for 2nd/1st. Thank you.
Tucker,
4th Class I already had my steam time from earlier operating experience. I did however still take the NAIT distance learning course to reduce to firing time from 12 months to 6 months. (6 month reduction)
http://www.nait.ca/98078.htm
3rd Class NAIT distance learning course to reduce steam time from 12 months to 6 months (6 month reduction)
http://www.nait.ca/98078.htm
2nd Class first half with NAIT, second half with SAIT distance learning courses to reduce steam time from 24 months to 15 months (9 month reduction)
http://www.nait.ca/98078.htm
http://www.sait.ca/programs-and-courses/continuing-education/courses-and-certificates/second-class-power-engineering-certificate-of-achievement.php
1st Class with SAIT distance learning to reduce steam time from 30 months to 18 months (12 month reduction)
http://www.sait.ca/programs-and-courses/continuing-education/courses-and-certificates/first-class-power-engineering-certificate-of-achievement.php
BCIT offers a distance learning course as well, I believe. If you completed a 2 year tech program you only need 12 months experience for your 2nd Class steam time. Taking the course linked above will not reduce your required steam time any further.
Hopefully that helps,
Robbie
Thanks for sharing Robb! I’ll be going for 1st soon so this is nice to know.
I found 1st Class to be a similar jump in material as 4th to 3rd Class. 1st Class slightly building on the 2nd Class material. It’s nowhere near as hard as the jump from 3rd to 2nd Class material and exams.
Good luck on your 1st Class.
Can anyone describe their results/impressions of taking the distant learning course from SAIT/NAIT??
Darren,
I found the NAIT & SAIT distance learning courses helpful through 4th to 2nd Class. The extra practice questions and tests definitely helped prepare for the exam and realize which material I was weak on from the test results. I’ll mention if you expect to take these distance learning courses and have an easy time passing the provincial exam, I never found that the case, they definitely help but it was still a struggle. I always took the courses for the steam time reduction. The distance learning instructors at times were helpful depending who you got.
I did not find the SAIT 1st Class distance learning course helpful. Writing twelve 30-45 page essays explaining the material covered in the pan global text book did very little to help me prepare for the exam. You might be different but writing an essay did not help me retain the material covered. I do better highlighting and making my own notes. Right when I finished the course they were changing the course structure for each book having an individual final exam instead of combining the four Part A books into a Part A final and the four Part B books into a Part B final. Which I think is a smart move.
I’d recommend the NAIT and SAIT courses for 4th-2nd Class. If I was to do 1st Class over again I’d look for a different option only because I don’t enjoy writing essays.
Hi! I really like with what you have done with the site and I hope you keep it going! It is a really good resource.
I am currently a student in a fourths program in Ontario getting steam time reduction which ends in early August. I have already completed my 4A & 4B, and my Steam time and I have just this last semester to go before I can submit to the TSSA and receive my paper.
I was thinking about challenging one or two of my third class exams before August. But I don’t know if they will allow me to write my Thirds before I officially get my Fourths paper in hand, or if they do and they won’t count the attempt.
I was wondering if anyone or if Power Eng 101 has any input on this or if they know if I can write!
Thanks
Hello Wes,
I’m not sure about the regulations in Ontario “TSSA” but if you were in the same situation in Alberta “ABSA” you would not be allowed to write your 3rd Class exams until you’ve received your 4th Class certification. I’d suspect that will be the case with TSSA, you’ll have to wait until their records are updated with your 4th Class certification before you can challenge your 3rd Class exams.
Congratulations on completing your 4th Class and good luck on your 3rd!
I’m glad to hear you’re finding the site as a great resource. It should be even more helpful when you’re able start working on your 3rd Class exams.
Robbie
Thanks Robbie!
There is a few of us that were wondering about this and are eager to progress as fast as we can.
I was taking a look at those practice questions for 3B1 & 3B2 and will have to definitely give those a try! I really appreciated your articles on which exam order to take and distance education articles that you made. I shared those among my peers.
Thanks for creating this site!
No problem. If you or your peers have any questions or ideas for an article feel free to send me an email at Powerengineering101@hotmail.com, as this is how some of the ideas for previous articles were created.
Hey guys I am just starting my BCIT distance learning 4th class. I haven’t received my books yet, however I do have SAIT books from someone I work with. Should I continue reading these SAIT books or is it just a waste of time? Has anyone else done the BCIT 4th class? Are the hints on your page useless to me? I live in Fort St John and figured BCIT was just the norm that everyone took. Might have made that mistake.
Cheers
Are there any courses or practice questions available somewhere for the first class thermo and mechanics? I still have my 2nd class course material from school, is that enough information to pass 1st class thermo and mechanics?
I just wrote and passed the 1st Class Thermo. Straight out of Pan Global and Reed’s Heat.
Harold, I second the recommendation of Reed’s Heat to prepare for your 1st class thermo and mechanics.
Thermo: Reed’s Applied Heat Vol 3: http://amzn.to/2FY5vcW (Affiliate link)
Mechanics: Reed’s Applied Mechanics Vol 2: http://amzn.to/2BdWMzI (Affiliate link)
Cheers!
Robbie
Is there any other reviewer for 3A1 exams, I started reading the pan global but still wondering if there’s more resource material available?
HI,
I’m preparing the 3B2 Test.
I did 2 times the practice Exam and in both attempts I got surprises as I noticed:
A – Some questions remain without feedback (correct answers= blank) so we don’t know the correct answer to the question.
B – Some of the provided feedback (correct answers) are wrong as a sample of question
“The fuel pump installed in a diesel engine is driven by the ……….”
Provided correct answer = Governor
It should be the camshaft as the governor controls the engine speed and do not drive the pump…!
Please, remedy to these multiple discrepancies as people pay money to get accurate tests and not approximate ones.
With thanks,
Emad
Hi Emad,
Thank you for the heads up! I’ve updated the correct answer for “The fuel pump installed in a diesel engine…” it is now camshaft instead of governor.
I’ll keep an eye out for any questions that do not have a correct answer selected, sometimes while entering 1000 plus practice questions I make a mistake. If you notice any questions like this I’d appreciate a comment on here or an email to robbie@powerengineering101.com and I’ll update them.
All the best,
Robbie
Course material for 3rd class– is it same in Ontario and Alberta ?
specially 3A1
Hi Kishan,
Yes, the course material is the same for Alberta & Ontario.
Good luck with your 3A1 exam.
Robbie
Hi Robbie,
I am tackling my 1st Class and have the codes paper currently. I am wondering if you have any reference material/question banks for the 1st Class math papers? I know Mike Maiden does courses with Power Prep and the Reed’s books are great as well. Just looking to get my hands on a bunch of material to prep for exams.
Hi Dustin,
Good luck with your 1st Class code exam. I don’t have anything specifically for that exam. You may find the 2A1 code questions helpful as the material is similar. You can check it out here: https://www.powerengineering101.com/2a1-course/
All the best,
Robbie
hello robbie,
I am challenging the 4th class part A and B provincial exam. Please kindly comment on the suitability of the pan global materials and SAIT distance learning course for 4th class to prepare for the provincial exam. I did quite well in the distance learning course and exam, how different is the provincial exam?. Am just worried i might meet totally different questions, i don’t want to be caught unawares.
kindly help
I do not have specific experience with the SAIT 4th Class program (I took NAIT). Speaking from my experience using the NAIT & PG materials I was able to pass both my 4th Class exams. That being said if you’re worried about your upcoming exam(s) the free practice material on sopeec.org and quizlet.com are great resources. If you’re looking for a timed practice exam with feedback on how you did on each question and exam category our practice exams have helped a lot of power engineers pass their exams. You can check them out under practice exams.
Hello Robbie,
i wanted to know if the pan global materials are enough to challenge the 4th class A and B provincial exam ?
Saw this awesome post.
Just a question though. I’m a 3rd class power engineer right now and is currently looking into jumping to 2nd class power engineer. But I’m not really sure how to study for 2nd. Can you please tell me how you studied for 2nd class long essay questions?
Right now, my current thoughts on how to study for 2nd is just do the back of the chapter questions without having to read the books.
I’m asking specially for 2a3 and 2a1.
Thank you
Hi Davski,
Honestly, I’m skeptical I read the Pan Global books, Reed’s. Walkers, and a variety of other resources to pass my 2nd Class exams. With strong industry-related experience you may be able to pass your 2A3 exam using that method. Given the pass rate for 2A1 & 2A2 are 48% & 52% respectively I’m doubtful you’ll get the result your after for those exams.
Hey there,
I just wrote 2A3 using a PanGlobal 2013 edition. There were 3 separate questions on that test out of 7 that are not in the 2013 edition of the PG textbook at all. I was just wondering if you have any insight into if the 2018 updated PG textbooks had more / different course material or if I should be investing in different study material.
Needless to say, I will most likely be rewriting 2A3